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Robert Venturi's Disorderly Ode





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First, we must all feel uneasy focusing on issues here that are almost trivial in the context of this particular time in this particular city. But then, in some ways having life go on--while at the same time mourning the tragedy and strategizing concerning the tragedy (as it has been put)--is, in some ways, not inappropriate.

Second, Denise and I want to recognize on this occasion Steven Izenour, our brilliant and dedicated friend and colleague over many decades who was so creative within our lives and within our work and whose early death last month has devastated us and many others.

BASCO Showroom by Venturi Scott Brown Associates, built in 1976.
1585 Broadway, the world headquarters of Morgan Stanley by Gwathmey, Siegel & Associates and Emery Roth & Sons, 1989.
Morgan Stanley Dean Witter Plaza by Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates, 2001. The building was initially built for Morgan Stanley, but it was bought by Lehman Brothers, who are the current owners.
Whitehall Ferry Terminal design by Venturi Scott Brown, 1995.

At the same time Denise and I must recognize here our other friends and colleagues who comprise our office and who make our work significantly what it has been and is. Also we all must realize Denise Scott Brown and I are partners--equal partners--involving design and ideas and all the other dimensions that engage the practice of architecture.

All of us love understanding and appreciation of our work and our ideas. We are grateful, especially grateful, for [Metropolis contributing editor] Barbara Flanagan's generous and elegant article in the current [October 2001] issue of Metropolis. And then there's Metropolis itself, without whose support this event could not have happened, and which we also profoundly appreciate. We also thank all those who've made this event happen including the City University of New York, Hines [the development firm founded by Gerald D. Hines], the New York chapter of the American Institute of Architects, and our friends and patrons Elise Jaffe and Jeff Brown. And we say thank you to the participants here today.

Concerning our work and ideas, there has been non-comprehension or misunderstanding over time. Mannerism is hard to understand, despite our straightforward way of writing, and Pop content is hard to take, as is iconography--we wonder if anyone knows the meaning of the word. And hey! Referring to historical architecture in our comparative analyses doesn't involve promoting historical revival architecture in our time. Therefore we are not Postmodernists and haven't been!

Another hey! Concerning pragmatism, Complexity and Contradiction in Architecture [by Robert Venturi, Museum of Modern Art and Graham Foundation, 1966; second printing 2002], teems with pragmatism, as a word and as method and content, and in Iconography And Electronics Upon A Generic Architecture: A View From The Drafting Room [also by Venturi, MIT Press, 1996], it's all over the place!

And a last hey! There has been some forgetting as well as misunderstanding. For instance, the new Museum of Modern Art in Queens, New York [which opened in spring 2002], reminds me--I think I can remember this far back--of BASCO Showroom in Philadelphia constructed in 1976!

And then there are two buildings in New York City, one at 1585 Broadway, the world headquarters of Morgan Stanley [Gwathmey, Siegel & Associates and Emery Roth & Sons, 1989] and the other on Seventh Avenue, the Morgan Stanley Dean Witter Plaza building [Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates, 2001] as great examples of iconographic architecture at last! Yet the design for the Whitehall Ferry Terminal of the mid-1990s is forgotten because it was never acknowledged in the press.

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But let me conclude here not with a lecture--we've already written a lot of books explaining our positions. Let me conclude with an ode, an ode that will, I hope, describe in a lyrical way and, I hope, a witty way (not in a pedantic way) our ideas evolving over the years. At the end of it you might be relieved to hear Denise's description of particular dimensions of our work and ideas in prose.

You will note in this ode I engage comparison again, as a method of clarification--not to be negative but to be clear--because what we're not makes what we are more comprehensible and vivid.

And accompanying the ode will be projected on the screen a series of images depicting what we call "loves": what we love, what inspires us, the range of which--from Michelangelos to bungalows--derives from our freedom and tolerance as artists and thinkers, freedom from the restrictions of ideology!


Now for the ode:
A Disorderly Ode to Architecture That Engages

Mannerism - rather than Modernism






























Mannerism - rather than Expressionism
Mannerism - rather than Minimalism
Or modernism that is mannerism
Iconography - rather than Expressionism
Iconography - rather than scenography
Iconographic Meaning - rather than Abstract Expression
Architecture as Communication - rather than as Space
For the Information Age - rather than the Industrial Age
Viva Electronic Technology - rather than Industrial Technology!
Details engaging dynamic Electronic Pixels ornamenting surfaces - rather than static Shades and Shadows articulating forms
The façade that Emits light - rather than Reflects light
That engages Symbol - rather than Abstraction
That engages Meaning - rather than Expression
Information - rather than Expression
Decorative Informational Signage - rather than Decorative Industrial Rocaille including decorative sagging guywires
Digital pixels as a medium of information - rather than ornamental rivets - as symbols of exotic teats?
Identity via dynamic electronic technology rather than via static dramatical form
Inspiration deriving from Commercial vernacular of now - rather than from Industrial vernacular of then
Real Modern - rather than Baroque Modern
Vital - rather than Visionary
Good - rather than Original
Contextual - rather than Universal
Electronic Sparkle - rather than Electric Glow
Discovering the Familiar - rather than Stalking the Exotic
Ordinary as Extraordinary - rather than Extraordinary as Ordinary
Incidental Originality - rather than Overt Originality
Real Avant Garde - rather than Rear Avant Garde
Try to Solve - rather than try to Impress
Architecture as the Subject of Theory - rather than Architecture as the Victim of Theory
Architecture - rather than Arconcepture
Dissonant - rather than Crazy
Frozen Music - rather than Frenzied Music
Frozen Music - rather than Frozen Theory
Messy Vitality - rather than Prissy Urbanism
"Decorate Construction" - rather than "Construct Decoration" - as Pugin put it
Multiple Taste Cultures - rather than Universal Good Taste
Vitality - rather than Taste
Flexible Loft - rather than Unique Masterpiece
Realism - as well as Idealism
Exceptions that Prove the Rule - rather than Abolish the Rule
Generic - rather than Signature
Generic loft - rather than articulated form
Generic shelter - rather than articulated sculpture
The Decorated Shed - rather than the Long Island Duck
Richness - rather than purity
Convention - as well as Invention
Accommodate function -- rather than follow function - the building as mitten rather than as glove
Flexible generic architecture - rather than coercive signature architecture
"Ugly and Ordinary" - as well as Heroic and Original
Programmatic accommodation - rather than ideological imposition
Pragmatism as method - rather than pragmatism as ideology
Mass culture - as well as high culture
Incidental originality - rather than overt originality
Master planning - rather than landscape prettification
Mess is more - rather than less is more
Authentic complexity and contradiction - rather than expressive complexity and contradiction
Second glance architecture - as well as Wow!
Joyous - as well as Serious
Architecture - rather than ideology
Architecture as craft - rather than as abstraction
Circumstance - as well as order
Dissonance - as well as harmony
Rich ambiguity - rather than esoteric complexity
Realism - rather than minimalism
Urban design - rather than urban prettification
Elemental shelter - rather than arty sculpture
Viva social/economic dimensions - as well as aesthetic dramatic dimensions
Architecture as electronic digital glitter - rather than as electric glowing cubes
Façade as a computer screen - rather than as a Mondrian
Valid-Modernism - rather than Neo-Modernism
Pragmatic - rather than ideological
Electronic Iconography as a new technology for an old tradition in architecture
Interaction spaces that are incidental - rather than dramatique - rather than atria
Viva evolution as well as revolution
Viva chaotic vitality - over ideological unity
Viva Times Square as the Piazza San Marco of the Electronic Age
Viva the hype sensibility of our time
Viva buildings that look like buildings - that are naughty rather than nutty - mannerist rather than expressionist
And finally, perhaps for our new Age of Terrorism, architecture as electronic-generic shelter more than architecture as formal-sculptural monument


End of "Disorganized Ode" and final note: Beyond that, perhaps because the September 11th event is so significant and profound in all its dimensions and ramifications and one with so little precedent, shouldn't we wait to absorb the depth and range of its significance and our society's emotional responses to it rather than blurt out prematurely what might turn out to be superficially grand ideas for its symbolic/urban/architectural strategy and commemoration? Is not now the time to deal with the immediate, as well as to absorb? It is not the time to talk, but to think.

Related Stories:
» Scott Brown, Denise, Measuring Downtown's Future, The New York Times, August 16, 2002.
» Scott Brown, Denise, What Shall We Do About the World Trade Center? MetropolisMag.com, April 8, 2002.
» Venturi, Robert, The World Trade Center: Hesitant Thoughts, MetropolisMag.com, April 8, 2002.
» Milgrom, Melissa, Learning from Steve Izenour, Metropolis Magazine, January 2002.
» Flanagan, Barbara, Born to be Bad, Metropolis Magazine, October 2001.
» Ringen, Jonathan, Lapidus of Luxury, Metropolis Magazine, January 2001, pp.58-61.
» Bischoff, Dan, Signs of the Times, Metropolis Magazine, February-March 1998.
To Order Back Issues of Metropolis:
» www.metropolismag.com/html/archives/back_issue_form.html
VSBA's Bibliography:
» www.vsba.com/whoweare/index_biblio.html
Selected Writings:
» Scott Brown, Denise, Urban Concepts, Architectural Design Profile 60, London: Academy Editions; distributed in U.S. by St. Martin's Press, January-February 1990.
» Venturi, Robert, Complexity and Contradiction in Architecture, New York: Museum of Modern Art and Graham Foundation, 1966.
» Venturi, Robert, Denise Scott Brown, and Steven Izenour, Learning from Las Vegas, Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1972.
» Venturi, Robert, Iconography And Electronics Upon A Generic Architecture: A View From The Drafting Room, Cambridge, MA: MIT Press, 1996.
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